Posts by James Free

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The Watchtower July 1 Questions From Readers - Each one decides for himself

by garybuss in

the watchtower july 1 questions from readers.

then are we to conclude that jehovah's witnesses oppose the people's use of transfusions?.

that would be a wrong conclusion.

James Free

The WT wanted legal recognition in a European country. This was refused because the government did not approve of the blood issue. So, the clever guys in Brooklyn hatched a plan - they told the government that they would not disfelloeship anyone for having a blood transfusion and that it was the choice of the individual.

Sounds Okay, thought the government, and allowed the recognition.

What the deceptive bast^&*s in Brooklyn failed to mention, was that, by their actions, those who had a transfusion would be DA themselves. The announcement, as always is that XX is no longer a JW. The consequence? Exactly the same as a disfellowshipping!

Some might call this deception theocratic warfare. I call it lying.

They do the actions of their father...as Jesus put it to the Pharisees.

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war coming to Isreal?

by Sasha in

is this the beginning of the "abomination of desolation"????

?

James Free

And why should they?

There should be no Israel, no Palestine. Instead put a democracy there where everyone is treated equally, Arab and Jew alike, and force religion out of politics. And for those who think Israel already is a democracy, it is if you are Jewish. Otherwise, tough s^*^*

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Really, What's So Wrong With The Jehovah's Witness Religion To You?

by minimus in

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is it that bad??

is it worse than fundamentalists of every other sort?

are jws worse than radical muslims?

James Free

Is it worse than fundamentalists of every other sort? Are JWs worse than radical Muslims?

Probably not. I was taken in, just as born-again christians and others are too. They are all as bad as each other because they are false, fake. Like a parasite, religions feed off the needs of the individual, offering false hope, false promises.

When I finally left the JW's I hated the religion for the damage it had done to my life. I wanted to get even. Now I realise they are not the only religion out there cheating its flock. Spiritual abuse, as it has been called, happens everywhere. In the country I am in at the moment - a third world country with abject poverty - Baptists, Catholics, El Shaddai and other religions offer false hopes for better times whilst robbing the people of 10 percent of the dollar a day they earn.

Begging, in the name of religion is commonplace here. They even give out envelopes on the public transport, searching for that extra peso. TV channels beg and beg for money. If you love Jesus, give me your money!

So, are the JW's worse that that lot? No I guess not.

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war coming to Isreal?

by Sasha in

is this the beginning of the "abomination of desolation"????

?

James Free

the government of Isreal is just as much a terrorist on those people

If the arabs stopped fighting there would be peace. True. No different to saying if everyone stopped fighting Germany and Japan the second world war would have ended quickly. There would have been peace then too. This shows what a pathetic argument that is. Want peace? surrender!

I wish Jerusalem was destroyed, brick by brick. I don't want any people hurt, just the city and what it represents.

Holy Land? Yea, right. There is not, and never was, anything holy about that place as far as I am concerned.

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Russia - Still King of the North

by proplog2 in

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when the berlin wall came down, even before the offical dissolution of the soviet union, the watchtower was quick to back away from the idea that russia was the king of the north.

nothing really changed.

true, there is an appearance of friendship and cooperation between russia and the us but russia is the one country that can totally destroy the usa.

James Free

I never noticed the start date before - thanks. Bush's lies were known almost from the beginning, but it took a while for the USA to realize they were duped. Even now many still fall for the lies, that Iraq was part of the war on terror, was involved with Al queda and involved in 9/11 somehow - all untrue.

But it does serve to highlight how we are living in changing times, and identifying a 'King of the North' by 'current' information is doomed to failure from the start. A lot of the WT explanations really seemed to fit in the sixties and seventies. Then it all fell apart.

No 'King of the North' is going to destroy the UK and USA in my lifetime. There may be a war, who knows? Putin is increasingly aggressive and Bush is a freaking idiot! But Russia destroying and invading? No way!

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Russia - Still King of the North

by proplog2 in

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friends

when the berlin wall came down, even before the offical dissolution of the soviet union, the watchtower was quick to back away from the idea that russia was the king of the north.

nothing really changed.

true, there is an appearance of friendship and cooperation between russia and the us but russia is the one country that can totally destroy the usa.

James Free

Russia is the one country that can totally destroy the USA.
The USA launched a pre-emptive attack on Iraq because it had weapons of mass destruction.

You lost me at that point...Russia could destroy the US? They could in theory, as could Britain, France, Israel, Pakistan, India or any other nuclear power. But only at the cost of destroying virtually everything else, including themselves. Iraq DID NOT HAVE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

What 'King of the North' could destroy the USA and the UK, as the WT lumps them together? Perhaps the most unlikely scenario ever! (Of course, some would say that proves the hand of God - but equally it could mean the prophetic interpretation is crap)

Ships of Kittim? Well, that actually is CYPRUS. And the ships were Phoenecian. What does this have to do with the 'King of the North' - that's anyone's guess, and nothing more. Perhaps Cyprus really is Atlantis, as some claim, haha

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No lit for ex-jws, big A coming in June, apostate warning--what's going on?

by rebel8 in

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there are 3 current threads that say these very things.

(ok, the one about armageddon says it will come within days or weeks--not months--so that means june 2007.

seems to me this is whipping up into a paranoia bigger than the 1980s apostate scare, bigger than they've ever seen before.

James Free

Nah it's not coming in June - it will be July 7th - 7th of the 7th 2007!

Or maybe 07/07/3007? or sometime in between. I imagine, if Noah kept saying 'It's gonna rain next year" and it did not. and so he repeated his claim again and it also failed - IT WOULD BE NOAH'S FAULT if, when the real day came, nobody believed him.

The GB is the same - false hopes, false raised expectations (even if they reject the claim they were false prophesies) has reduced their credibility to zero. Jesus - if you are really using the bunch of useless pharisees, think again!

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Is Swearing Allowed???

by mtsgrad in

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as a good witness i only swore once (aloud) in my 30 year theocratic career (at work).

have any members here started $&^%ing since leaving the borg?.

a fairly new publisher once said in a talk "when a householder tells you to f%$ off".

James Free

They have regulated the words Damn, Hell, Darn, Gee, Gosh, and Golly out of their vocabulary as swear words. Other words like luck, party, and God Bless You are regulated as pagan or "worldly" and thus they are not allowed.

Actually I traveled around a lot when I was a Witness and used to be 'shocked' that swearing was so common. What was acceptable depended on where you went. "Oh my God' is commonly used by the 'friends' as they call themselves there in the USA but absolutely not allowed in the UK. Another one was - "x pisses me off".

Now I can say what I want - which has resulted in my swearing LESS, go figure!

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A Gem from the new book "COME BE MY FOLLOWER"

by bennyk in

i've only skimmed the book, but this is a keeper:.

he [jesus] is certainly angry at all those religious organizations that falsely claim to represent him.

--p. 185, par.

James Free

BTW, is it just me or is that sentence is worded as if a 7 year old wrote it.

Sure, all the publications are like that these days. And some will still say the study is too deep for them! haha.

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Jehovah's Witnesses turned Christian....Post Here

by R.F. in

i would like those of you former jws turned christian to post here.

specific denominations can be mentioned.

i'd just like to get an idea of how many of you there are.

James Free

Sorry folks, but like it or not, the JWs are just another sect within Christendom. They may have a bizarre spin on it, but they are a brand of christianity nonetheless. All ex-JWs have done when joining another christian denomination is switch to a different "style" of christianity.

There are some who will be offended by this comment. Especially those who claim to be Christian to the exclusion of people with differing views. As for me, I actually agree with what was said. Although some may promote this definition or that definition of what is a Christian, the fact is the word Christian is as undefinable as what is art, what is poetry? I find those insisting on JW's not being Christian, while equally insisting that they are, are often as arrogant and self-righteous as the JW's who claim to be the only ones with the 'Truth'.